People love to bandy about theories about GW's business strategies, etc. As long as I've been back in the hobby wargaming in general, not the GW "hobby" only everyone has bitched and moaned and insisted that GW has priced themselves out of the market. It's not permitted to complain about them here, so I'll have to leave the negative. The positive though, is that they really do make awesome plastic kits. Wyrd Miniatures just invested in some very cool looking stuff, but with that exception, there's nobody even in the same ballpark as GW when it comes to the quality of their plastic- especially the bigger pieces.
Basically I got into the hobby when I was young, about Now I'm 22 and preparing to get back into painting having taken a new interest in it from an artistic level. I'm fine to buy cheap minis on eBay but obviously that supply will run out at some point. LoTR was big back then but I think GW advertising a bit more would obviously help them in some way, getting the young'uns into the hobby.
They also have to look at the economy. Companies like Sony make losses on PS4s but make up the money on the games for the system so maybe GW could try a variation on that. It just makes no sense in an economical situation like this where high price technology is going down in price rapidly but GW charge so much on basic stuff like a sprue of plastics. Overall I'm not a business analyst though so you can ignore everything I say.
This isn't bashing btw, I understand what GW have to do, just trying to understand the situation and where the company is going in the future. I guess we'll find out Just avoid calling each other sycophants and h8ters as happened in recent threads that devolved and we'll be okay.
I don't remember the flyer coming with the DVD, but I can't think why I'd have put one in the box myself. Smart move on GWs part.
I agree GW's promotion is very insular and relies heavily on word of mouth. For instance, My lad signed up for a 40K beginner session last week after accompanying me to the store and was given an invitation to bring a friend. So I took them both today for 4 hours then we came home and built minis for another 3 hours. They went to bed watching the Ultramarines movie. They are already hooked. But they are both only 11 so easily pleased. I know there is a schools league but that only occurs if an existing player decides to start a club up at school.
GW do not to my knowledge visit schools to show them demo games etc in hope of getting new clubs running. As for finecast, It was absolutely terrible when it first came out, I don't care how many people say otherwise. However, since then, GW have worked hard to rejiggle the formula and I am actually quite impressed with it lately. The controversial new Hobbit Laketown guard are quite tasty indeed detail wise for instance and I had no issues at all with the two 40K blisters I purchased either.
Like the nursery rhyme, when it is good it is very very good, when it's bad it's horrid. I've had a decent run of it, only one defect which was exchanged with no quibble. One of the big differences developed in recent years is the use of spin casting with new resin. This newer resin also less dense than metal and solidifies cooler. But it is also a slightly softer product and it solidifies fairly rapidly. If one is not careful in the mixing and poring then one can introduce bubbles which will stay in the mold.
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If you are already a member then feel free to login now. Subject: GW phasing out finecast for more expensive plastic. Now plastic is getting more expensive than finecast. I know, I know - these ridiculouse prices are only for the HQ clampacks, but still.
When you compare them to similar HQ finecast models it's pretty obvious. This becomes most obvious with the new SM Terminator Librarian. Ever since I saw this guy for the first time at a expo, I thought he was one of the most detailed and beautiful miniatures scuplted by GW.
I know it's been 8 years, but still I never felt the model had the "old" look that might warrant a replacement for some of GW 's old miniatures. But now it's over, guys - the SM terminator librarian of old is gonna be sold out. The new space marine Librarian, this guy: is essentially the same librarian just looking the other direction and swapping the staff from his right to his left hand, and his stormbolter from his left to his right.
That's it. Okay, he comes with a cape. The price hike from metal to finecast literally pales in comparison. Why do you think they have so much trouble sculpting attractive female models? Because girls have cooties and the staff at GW don't like looking at them for too long because it makes them feel funny in their naughty place. This is cute. Dark Eldar had pretty much ALL fine cast characters and what didn't get replaced was straight up taken away from us.
Yet, I haven't complained of gotten upset. We play a hobby and hobbies are typically expensive. I don't partake in the motorcycle hobby because I don't have the funds. Alas, it's life and how things have been for years. Runnin up on ya. I'll wait for homda to stop making parts for my motorcycle then, shall I? On wait, they don't do that.
New models may come and go but vehicle manufacturers still support their products. I can still buy parts for my Pontiac even though the entire brand is gone because GM , like most companies, knows that a happy customer continues to buy from them while an unhappy customer moves on. GW have yet to learn this lesson and so profits continue to slide. Six mistakes mankind keeps making century after century: Believing that personal gain is made by crushing others; Worrying about things that cannot be changed or corrected; Insisting that a thing is impossible because we cannot accomplish it; Refusing to set aside trivial preferences; Neglecting development and refinement of the mind; Attempting to compel others to believe and live as we do.
No, agnosto, It is you and every customer who does not learn. You and everyone else is allowing GW to exploit your wallet when you continue to buy the models. Simply just stop buying if you dont like it. Do not be guilted into thinking that you must support GW or wh40k will die. Subject: Re:GW phasing out finecast for more expensive plastic.
The new guy looks cool but he has the face of a man forcing out a big poo. Its seems like if GW keeps selling their old casts people get upset because they don't update their line enough. Then they make new models and they get crapped on for trying to update models.
The keys at his waist are no longer molded into the loin cloth, but are swinging off and away from his legs. The staff is no longer a blob like eagle topper, but has a more delicate look.
I guess I just don't see the beef. Like Dalymiddleboro said, it's an expensive hobby. It's always been one of the more costly TT games or sci-fi hobbies in general.
Raleigh, NC. I don't see how the new Libby is more detailed than the previous one. I also don't understand the reasoning for up'ing the price from the previous one other than "because we can. I'm assuming the answer is "no", but at the same time I'd like to know why this price increase was so necessary.
I'm all for GW producing new models, but the rate at which prices are skyrocketing is alarming to say the least. Sir Arun wrote: The price hike from metal to finecast literally pales in comparison. See, you're trying to use people logic. TFOL and proud. Also a Forge World Fan. I should really paint some of my models instead of browsing forums. Shred City. Both are nice in their own way, but I won't be paying that much for a model that doesn't decisively demand it. But this would have been a much easier pill to swallow if it had come with multiple weapon options and perhaps a few molded shoulder pads to use.
One thing I'm often curious about is why none of the 40k models are as extravagent as the fantasy alternatives? Take Nagash for example. He's a very ornate model. Now all the flowing ghosts and floating books may be a bit much for a Space Marine HQ , a far seer doing this calling down some eldritch lightning would be really cool.
If the price drop increases in revenue, it's clear the current price point is over the optimum for the product on the current demand curve. Any other situation would indicate they are charging at or below minimum. Given that they have done this, they must be getting the latter, like, a lot. Yet still I'd agree GW is severely overestimating they market. As much as this is a niche market for luxurious goods let's face it, you don't need a constant supply of plastic models of any kind to maintain you biological existence , their target audience aren't generally the kind for fancy yachts or grossly-overpriced semi-racing cars.
An with the market getting more competitive, they are facing an ever more elastic demand with switching made easier with more alternatives. It's fine switching their production line to a more cost effective one, and I know it costs money, like a lot for massive-produced plastic sprues.
But those initial investments are fixed costs that should not be taken into consideration when deciding the long-term price of their product. I'd expect if the price hike is caused by the initial investment, over say, 1 or two years the plastic lines should have an equal, if no more severe price drop. As the marginal cost per product should be really low for mass-produced plastic sprues.
Somehow, I don't think that's gonna happen. In essence people jokingly call it plasti-crack and GW prices according to that addictive property of its products.
Now if only they'd give that first free sample that gets everyone hooked. It's very clear they've taken it beyond what's mathematically optimal. Their revenue drops and grows more dependent on smaller sales volume. Yet still I'd agree GW is severely underestimating their market overestimating they market's demands. It's find switching their production line to a more cost effective one, and I know it costs money, like a lot for massive-produced plastic sprues, but those initial investments are fixed costs that should not be taken into consideration when deciding the long-term price of their product.
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